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Tonya Mosley of Fresh Air on NPR spoke to Heather McGhee, author of the 2021 book The Sum Of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone And How We Can Prosper Together. Though the book is a few years old recent claims by the nasty guy that white people face a lot of reverse discrimination made a discussion of the book appropriate now. Some people believe the lie that anti-white bias is now more prevalent than anti-black bias. I’m working from a transcript of the hour long show. I haven’t read the book, though it is one I should get.
The central idea of the book is that racism hurts more than the targets. It hurts white people too, including the perpetrators.
The nasty guy’s administration has been masterful in declaring an underlying core narrative: “an us-versus-them zero-sum story.” That says there can me no mutual progress. If one group – women, people of color, immigrants – gets ahead, it’s at the expense of native-born white men. Therefore white men should fear progress and should fear people of color. This is a lie. Facts make that clear.
Civil rights have clearly benefited white women, first-generation college students, and people of disabilities. White men have also benefited. Part of that is there is still a “long-standing deliberate and explicit bias towards them.” Part of it is they benefit when companies and institutions are more successful because of their diversity. The whole society benefits, including white men.
Back in 2017-2021 as McGhee wrote the book she investigated where this zero-sum lie came from. It started when the continent began to be settled by Europeans – when Europeans began to codify slavery as based on race. They didn’t want white people at the bottom of the income hierarchy to find solidarity with black slaves. Preaching zero-sum made sure poor whites thought of themselves as above blacks and helping blacks would hurt themselves. Said McGhee:
When economic inequality gets really severe, people who are divided by race or color, language or origin start to realize that they actually have more in common than what sets them apart and that they shouldn't fear their neighbors or blame their neighbors for their economic status but should be looking up the economic ladder at the people who have the power to set the rules. And that's when you begin to hear the zero-sum story louder and louder from millionaires and billionaires, self-interested folks who want to keep the economic status quo just as it is.
Yes, the zero-sum lie also shapes our country’s economics.
In the 1920s towns and cities created public swimming pools, a symbol of the common good. Many were drained and filled rather than shared with black neighbors. Social Security excluded the two job categories most black workers were in. The GI Bill excluded blacks. The big investment in mortgage support excluded blacks through redlining and racial covenants. White people saw government had a role in raising the standard of living, and all these programs were created. But white people were taught to disdain and distrust black and brown people, so they had to be excluded.
When the book came out in 2021 white people across the country were waking up to understanding we’ve been lied to about our history, that we wanted to understand the country in its fullness. We wanted to know our heroes of all races, those who stood with the oppressed. And the nasty guy wants to erase that.
McGhee thinks the erasure will be temporary. Too many people, too many white people, don’t want history whitewashed. White people have told her they were furious they were lied to in school history classes. Young readers, the most diverse generation and with phones to access all the info in the world, don’t want to be lied to. More importantly, the nasty guy hasn’t changed public opinion, our support for history without lies.
We’ve seen the nasty guy pursue supposed (accused, not proven) black fraud, as in the Somali immigrants in Minnesota. But no one pursues white fraud, as in Brett Favre redirecting assistance to needy families into college sports facilities, including a million for himself. That doesn’t fit the narrative.
The whole purpose of DOGE was to eliminate woke, slashing governmental budgets and causing chaos in their effort. That mostly affected black workers.
Whenever we hear “states’ rights” in legal documents, think slavery and segregation. An example is the Roberts court, that Medicaid expansion should be up to the states. And the higher percentage of black people in a state the more likely Medicaid was not expanded. The current fight about the Affordable Care Act is in its core about racism.
Dr. King said injustice in health is the most shocking and inhuman system in our society. If health care is not universal someone is left out. Black and brown people are disproportionately uninsured but there are more uninsured white people than black. Yet, a majority of white people are opposed to the Affordable Care Act.
McGhee remains optimistic. Pull on and resolve the racism thread and a lot of our big issues – health, housing, education, environment, democracy, the things conservatives declare as too expensive – become easier.
We need each other. There are too many things I can’t do on my own. Community can do some of them but government helps us do the rest of them. In a diverse society we need multiracial action.
When a community rejects zero-sum thinking and embraces cross-racial solidarity they get higher wages, cleaner air, better schools. The whole community benefits. An example is Lewiston, Maine where African refugees helped revitalize the town. Which is why the nasty guy is targeting it.
An important need is organizing. And, in a lot of cities targeted by ICE, that’s what residents are doing. A lot of people are becoming participants in their communities, working towards a common goal. This is King’s Beloved Community, the exact opposite of zero-sum thinking.
That’s why the nasty guy is trying to make “activism” a dirty word. He wants us to be afraid, to “think that it is dangerous and socially undesirable to speak out and be active.” And Americans aren’t listening to that idea.
For white people who continue to believe in zero-sum: When people are “sidelined due to debt, discrimination, disadvantage” they aren’t contributing to the economy the way they could. Citigroup found racism cost the US GDP $16 trillion over 20 years.
A black college graduate has less wealth than a white high school dropout. Instead of spending a decade working through a mountain of debt, what if that black graduate could jump right in to contributing to the economy?
Don’t think of reparations as zero-sum, of one group giving to another, or as an admission of white guilt. Instead, think of it is seed capital to a new America, a cushion of wealth for black people that benefits everyone.
Before I give McGhee the final word, I’ve been thinking: While the white male benefits from the end or racism, he does lose something. That something is the sense of being higher in the social hierarchy. For many white people that is of primary importance. For those in the nasty guy’s administration that’s what they obsess over and what defines their lives. I can’t wait to be rid of it.
This is a country that is in fact, just as it has always been, warring between a faction that wants to keep wealth and power concentrated in its hands and a diverse, striving, agitating, often activist, multiracial population that is trying to figure out who they are to one another. But I think that the reason why the attacks have been so brutal and overreaching is because we are so close to a place where there is an enduring multiracial governing majority that wants this country to live up to the values that we were taught it was founded on and is ready to do the work to actually make it so.
My Sunday movie was My Sunshine, a Japanese movie that seems appropriate leading up to the Olympics next month. It’s appropriate to me because about all I watch of the Olympics are the opening and closing ceremonies and the figure skating.
The setting is on Hokkaido, the northern island of Japan. The exact city might have been mentioned on a sign or building but was not translated. Takuya is in his young teens and occasionally stutters. He is the goalie of his hockey team and not good at it.
The figure skating class takes over the rink when the hockey team is done and Takuya becomes enamored with Sakura, one of the better ones and quite good. Movie descriptions say she is from Tokyo but no reason is given for why she is here and not there.
Takuya tries mimicking the spins he sees Sakura do, but doesn’t do well in hockey skates. Her coach watches him and offers his old figure skates (amazingly they fit!) and offers to given him lessons for free – there are a lot of girl figure skaters and not enough boys. As Takuya improves the coach suggests he and Sakura become an ice dancing team. Her mother thinks she’s better than that.
I enjoyed it. It’s a good film but I would not say it’s a great film.
Now for some spoilers. There are a couple reasons for mentioning them. One is the description of the movie isn’t right. It implies that Takuya and Sakura grow close and experience young love. They become a decent dancing pair, but I didn’t see them become more than friends.
The other reason is about the coach. The movie says that he is from Tokyo. The implied question is why is he here in northern Japan and not Tokyo or other big city – he is good enough to coach the impressive Sakura. We eventually see the reason – he’s gay. And attitudes in northern Japan are still quite conservative. So there is no final triumphant showing at the ice dancing competition. That the coach is gay is not in the description and I didn’t know that when choosing this film.
Back to the description. It has the phrase, “unspoken feelings begin to surface,” implying a growing love between Takuya and Sakura. But the “unspoken feelings” are between the coach and his lover, as far as I can tell, and they don’t “begin to surface.”
With all that I’m not sure how I would have succinctly described this movie.
Tovia Smith of NPR reported that Bishop Rob Hirschfeld of the Episcopal Church in New Hampshire told a community of faith leaders about the “cruelty, the injustice and the horror … unleashed in Minneapolis.” Then he warned of “a new era of martyrdom.” When talking to a reporter he said:
I've asked them to get their affairs in order to make sure they have their wills written, because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements, but for us with our bodies to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable.
Yeah, that went viral.
Some faith leaders responded by essentially saying glad he said that. They’ve been thinking something similar and feel relief that someone spoke out. Others wondered if they would be that brave, but know they need to move beyond taking no risk.
Others said this didn’t diffuse tension, it seemed more of a war cry. The church should be about peacemaking and to build bridges. I add that ICE isn’t about to diffuse tension or make peace, though building bridges to conservatives is a big help, but outside of ICE protests.
Another opinion is that they didn’t sign up to be a martyr, they have a family and congregation who rely on them. I add the family is definitely a concern, but the congregation will survive, get another pastor, and might appreciate the example.
Hirschfeld replied to criticism:
What I said to the clergy (was) “I'm just asking you to live your life without fear of death. Be prepared. I'm not asking you to go look for that bullet.” I'm simply saying be ready, have your affairs in order, have your soul ready, in case you find yourself in trouble.
That trouble may not come from ICE agents. New Hampshire is an open carry state and rallies and vigils prompt MAGA people to counterprotest, which could turn violent.
Homeland Security Tricia McLaughlin said that if Hirschfeld wanted to stand with the vulnerable he should stand with the ICE agents. Yeah, that sort of inverse logic is expected.
Some of these posts are old, some are recent. Together they tell a developing story.
Back on November 19 Lisa Needham of Daily Kos reported that ICE was about to hire bounty hunters to track down immigrants for them. The hunters would get $300 for each person and address they verify and pass to ICE.
Yeah, there are professional bounty hunters, though the field doesn’t have oversight and is full of abuse. But a big problem is this offer could be expanded to anyone who wanted to surveil and betray neighbors. There don’t seem to be safeguards on whether the address is for an actual undocumented person.
This seems modeled on the Texas law that allowed citizens to sue someone for getting an abortion and collect the fee. But this is a paltry sum for selling your soul.
Needham has more details in a report from November 13. Bounty hunters are not government employees and do not have restrictions that ICE agents have. Nevada Department of Insurance has 459 pages of complains about bounty hunters for harassment, stalking, and excessive force – yeah, what ICE agents are already doing – today ICE doesn’t seem to have restrictions.
Kos of Kos wrote on November 22 that ICE went into Charlotte, North Carolina and over a week managed only 250 arrests, or 35 a day. The cost of this is large. Charlotte is deliberate in impeding ICE’s operations.
Which gets to the heart of the whole project: Trump isn’t crafting a coherent immigration policy. He’s staging a political stunt—punishing the immigrants his base hates while quietly protecting the ones corporate America finds useful.
On November 25 Needham reported that so many Department of Homeland Security personnel have been reassigned to the immigrant crackdown that investigations of actual crimes aren’t getting much attention. These are such crimes as “drug and weapons smuggling, cyber and financial crime, illegal technology exports and intellectual property crime” as listed on the Homeland Security Investigation website. Feel safer?
Also, most of those detained by ICE do not have a criminal background (as has been mentioned before).
I didn’t save articles about ICE for a while after that. I think there was one about using facial recognition software to identify people. Yeah, that will only lead to problems.
On January 13 Kos wrote that Americans are turning towards the idea of defunding ICE. A few years ago there were calls to “defund the police.” But that caused more problems and didn’t provide much help.
What is causing the big change in opinion is Americans used to assume that ICE was going after serious criminals, not ordinary immigrants and not citizens. But we now see ICE as a real, visible, and brutal presence. An important reason for that change is the murder of Renee Good in Minneapolis. Now 40% of Americans have a favorable view of ICE and 51% view it unfavorably, according to a YouGov survey. Also, nearly 70% say agents must wear uniforms and 55% oppose agents hiding their identities behind masks. Support for protests against ICE is at 49% with opposition to protests at 41%. 45% don’t want to abolish ICE while 42% do. But trend lines show support for abolishing ICE may soon reach a majority.
This morning A Martínez of NPR spoke to Liza Goitein of the Brennan Center for Justice about what’s involved if the nasty guy invokes the Insurrection Act against Minnesota as he’s been saying he has a right to do.
The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits federal armed forces from being used against citizens. The Insurrection Act is the exception. It also means the president can take over the state National Guard without permission of the governor.
There are restrictions to when the Act can be used. But this was a law passed in the early 1800s so now the language seems vague and archaic. Other restrictions have been there by tradition, which the nasty guy is very good at ignoring. There is also precedent that invoking the Insurrection Act cannot be reviewed by a court. So, of course, if it is invoked there will be court cases.
Also this morning Michel Martin of NPR spoke to reporter Ximena Bustillo about the training ICE agents are getting. I’ll just say there are plenty of reasons to believe agents are not getting all the necessary training.
This afternoon Sergio Martinez-Beltrán of NPR reported on how Minneapolis residents are working together to thwart what ICE is trying to do. Alas, at the time of this writing they have not posted a transcript.
Thom Hartmann of the Kos community and an independent pundit analyzed the situation in Minneapolis. He first contrasted what ICE is doing compared to how deportations were done under Obama, where the rules were followed:
Nobody showed up to kick in the front door of their home. Nobody from the government was wearing a mask. No swearing, no threats, no guns, no tear gas, no pepper spray, no hitting his car with theirs or beating either of them to the ground. They merely told him he had to leave and served him with the appropriate paperwork, just like they do in most other democratic countries.
Immigration enforcement has been happening since the 1920s and we didn’t need a budget larger than for the Marine Corps to do it. Obama managed 3.1 deportations in 8 years, or an average of 387,500 a year, with 407,000 in 2012. The nasty guy did about 290,000 last year with a previous peak of 269,000 in 2019. Which means the nasty guy’s methods of deporting people are a lot less effective than Obama’s.
But the nasty guy’s methods aren’t just about deportations. They aren’t about investigating fraud (Somali immigrants in Minnesota are accused of that). They’re about terrorizing a community.
The nasty guy, vice nasty, and Stephen Miller have been clear their goal is not to run the country with “the consent of the governed” but with raw power, “authority without restrictions.”
When autocrats want to seize power they begin by telling the people who they need to fear. And for the nasty guy that is brown and black people, particularly those born elsewhere.
Once the populace is sufficiently terrified of the “other,” they’ll accept increasing levels of repression in the name of stemming the danger to themselves and their families. Armed agents of the state begin to show up in public places to “enforce law and order,” but their real goal is to terrify people into submission.
This is why Noem and Bondi are refusing to investigate Renee Good’s murder and instead demanding their federal prosecutors go after her grieving wife. They want not only ICE thugs but everybody in America who may think of challenging them to know that smashing windows, dragging people out of their cars, kicking in their doors, beating them to the ground, and even killing them — all without any legal basis, without a single warrant — are what we can all expect to happen to us if we defy their power.
Hartmann quoted the National Security Presidential Memorandum-7 the nasty guy signed two months ago. It defines domestic terrorism.
“[A]nti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, … extremism on migration, extremism on race, extremism on gender, hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.”
We can guess his definition of “extremism” and “hostility” which means just about everyone but MAGA fits the description of domestic terrorist. And ICE is reminding us of the awesome power the nasty guy has in enforcing it. Do something against us and we’ll turn the full force of our violence on you.
Hartmann quoted Stephen Miller’s instructions to ICE agents, that they have full immunity. Anyone who obstructs their work will face our justice. Yeah, that’s full of lies. But Hartmann says the message is clear: We have the power. We will use the power. There is nothing you can do about it. If you try to stop us we will use our power against you.
The threat of the Insurrection Act is a threat to override state and local government, suppress dissent, and put federal violence above the rule of law. This is not a democracy. It is state sponsored terror.
That got me thinking. Considering how involved Minneapolis residents are in protecting the vulnerable among them and how much the nasty guy wants to use violence to thwart that protection. I think the next few weeks in the city will be critical to democracy in the US.
There will be significant bloodshed. I knew that would be coming sometime somewhere. Then we’ll see how willing the US military is to shooting fellow citizens or whether Congress or state level Republicans will grow a spine. I have no idea so won’t guess on whether democracy or the nasty guy wins.
Bill in Portland, Maine, in his Cheers and Jeers column for Kos quoted late night commentary:
"Right now there are over two-thousand federal immigration agents in Minnesota, and Trump is planning to send around a thousand more. So he's clearly invading Minnesota. Has anyone told him they don’t have oil? Because the best he's gonna get is 50-million barrels of cream of mushroom soup."
—Stephen Colbert
In today’s pundit roundup for Kos Greg Dworkin quoted the New York Times. Here’s a bit of it:
Rather than encourage agents to de-escalate combustible encounters, as the agency guidelines emphasize, Mr. Trump and his lieutenants have provided tacit approval for more aggressive tactics.
Acyn tweeted a message from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
My position has always been clear that ICE funding should be cut. We’re seeing what they’re doing with this reckless explosion in funding, and I want everybody to understand that the cuts to your health care are what’s paying for this
David Shor added:
We recently tested ~ a dozen public statements from a diverse set of Democratic elected officials on the murder of Renee Good and this was the top testing one.
A tweet from Jonathan Cohn quoted @EggerDC:
"Minneapolis is overheating right now, not because protesters are running amok, but because federal immigration enforcement and its political leadership ... are comporting themselves with astonishing, outrageous deception and malice."
That came with a link to an article on The Bulwark, presumably written by @EggerDC, with this title and subtitle:
ICE started the fire
Rather than trying to calm things down, the government is fanning the flames.
David Schuster of Blue Amp
But the real jewel in this crown of Trump administration insanity belongs to Vice President J. D. Vance.
He announced with great solemnity that federal law-enforcement officers enjoy “absolute immunity.”
Vance’s declaration is not merely wrong; it is ludicrous. There is no such doctrine in American law. None. It exists only in the fever dreams of fascist wannabes who mistake their own wishes for jurisprudence.
A tweet from the Omaha World-Herald:
Rep. Don Bacon tells The World-Herald that there would be GOP support for an impeachment of Donald Trump if the U.S. invaded Greenland.
Bacon added:
Bottom line: the WH talk of invading Greenland is WRONG & will backfire in worst way. America stands by our Allies. This is not the 1890s… today we lead free nations against totalitarian & imperialistic governments. We are better & won’t cave to outdated old thinking.
In the comments are a more cartoons about Greenland including a couple showing it defended by a Lego fortress.
Medusa posted a cartoon by Rob Rogers showing two Iranian clerics wearing ICE vests. One says, “Wait... Why are we wearing these?” The other: “So we can engage in violent, bloody crackdowns with Trump’s full support!”
PX Molina posted a meme showing a hand stopping a fist. The words say:
They want your silence. Don't give it to them.
They want your fear. Don't give it to them.
They want your violence. Don't give it to them.
They want your misinformation. Don't give it to them.
Deny them everything that feeds them.