Ask the taxi driver what their PhD is in

This episode of Gaslit Nation is titled The Untold Inspiring History Behind Mrs. Orwell That Terrifies the Kremlin. Host and author Andrea Chalupa and artist Maya Hayuk discuss Chalupa’s new graphic novel Mrs. Orwell. Both Chalupa and Hayuk are of Ukrainian descent and children of refugees. One might think that Hayuk is the illustrator of the book, but that was Brahm Revel (I looked it up – Goodreads gives it 4.05/5). The discussion between Chlupa and Hayak is over an hour long and was posted on April 7, a few days before the election in Hungary. I worked from the transcript. They do talk about Orwell, but not much. Most of their congenial discussion is about having similar Ukrainian ancestry. Chalupa began:

I want to remind everyone that Hungary, Orban's Hungary, is the Kremlin's agent in the EU. There's been several investigations confirming that, including a recent one, showing how Orban's government was on the phone with the Kremlin, doing everything they could to weaken EU sanctions designed to try to stop Russia's genocidal invasion of Ukraine.

Good to know Orbán has been booted. Mrs. Orwell is Eileen Blair, wife of George Orwell, who wrote Animal Farm and 1984, novels that explain fascism. His real name was Eric Blair. Chalupa wrote the film Mr. Jones about the Holodomor, Stalin's Genocide famine in Ukraine (I’ve watched and recommend it). George Orwell makes an appearance in that film and Chalupa wanted Eileen Blair to do the same, but she needed her own project. And this graphic novel is it. Chalupa says of the book:

It's a tribute to this unsung heroine of literature. There would've been no George Orwell without her. She is so important to his greatest works of art. It was really a reminder to us that it takes a team, it takes community, it takes a love affair to get the truth out into the world today. We all have to find our great loves in this moment. We all have to hold on tight to the gentleness inside ourselves and others and show ourselves in grace and get through this time together and create, create, create, whatever that looks like to you.

Hayuk, speaking through grief and rage over Ukraine, said that the Iran war is great for Putin. Sanctions were lifted because the world needs his oil. The nasty guy is upset with NATO for refusing to help him in Iran – and dissolving the West is one of Putin’s goals. Yet the Ukraine war was close to collapsing the Russian economy – until the sanctions were lifted. Chalupa added that puts Ukraine as the front in the global war between democracy and fascism. And Russia is one of the nodes of the transnational crime network we’re up against. Netanyahu is another node. Netanyahu has said the Iran war will be long. The nasty guy responds with the war being good cover to drop the Russian sanctions. Hayuk wondered how a guy with 34 felonies was elected president. He wouldn’t be hired at McDonalds. Chalupa noted there are laws, which is separate from enforcing the laws. America doesn’t have the moral will to enforce its laws. At minute 36 they begin discussing Orwell. He served in the British Imperial Police in India for five years. He was one of the “boots smashing the face.” Women helped him out and shaped him, such as his Aunt Nellie, who helped him find a job at a London bookstore. It was Eileen, a springtime spirit. She gave him a happy nest from which he could create. Hayuk then talked about becoming an artist. She inherited talent from her father, though he wasn’t a professional artist. For her art isn’t a career, but a way of living, of being an activist, engaged deeply in the world. She has drawn and painted, but is also a photographer and theater scenic designer and builder. It’s gig work with a lot of administrative work. It’s a decent living. Chalupa said that researching and writing Mr. Jones she saw the same forces face us today. Back in 2015 she warned people that the nasty guy is a Russian asset. Most of her warnings were ignored. That prompted starting Gaslit Nation. Part of being defiant is building something. Chalupa and Hayuk talk about their ancestry. While in a German refugee camp at the end of WWII one of Chalupa’s ancestors got a Ukrainian language edition of Animal Farm. Chalupa now has that book. In that camp the Ukrainians organized to teach kids – whatever your profession back home you had to teach it to the kids. Even ballet. And Animal Farm was assigned reading. That prompted Chalupa to say many refugees are quite talented. Their potential needs to be developed for the sake of the world. Hayuk added that “every time you get into a taxi cab, have a conversation with what the taxi driver's PhD is in.”